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Saturday, December 7, 2013

To Vaccinate or not to Vaccinate

To Vaccinate or not to Vaccinate

Every fall, as flu season approaches, health services, doctors and local newspapers publish articles that stress the importance of immunization shots, but there is a growing number within communities that view these immunization shots as unnecessary and potentially life threatening. Anxieties have risen as occurrences of varying diseases, such as Measles and Pertussis, have transpired throughout Alberta. These occurrences are reinforcement to the necessity of receiving immunization shots. The immunization shots offered are done so in order to help individuals combat such diseases and in turn prevent larger outbreaks that may carry deadly consequences. Those that oppose the shots are viewed with distain and are also considered potential carriers of the diseases that those who are pro-immunization are trying to protect against. While these diseases are worrisome to all, there are those who do not agree with the necessity of immunization shots. Concerns have been raised in the taking of these shots and the unwanted side effects that may result because of them. The insufficient study into the biochemistry of individuals and the affects of the immunization shots on them, leads to unwillingness to partake in these shots. Those against immunization shots argue that local and federal government, along with health services, use fear tactics in order to win people over to their cause without providing sufficient evidence of the consequences in taking of these shots. With both groups arguing against one another, members of society, particularly those who have dependents under their care, are left with a difficult choice to make, to vaccinate or not to vaccinate? 


Kmarie said...

Well you know I have feelings that vary depending on the shot but I like that you present a taste of perspective from both sides. I respect that even though I know you have your own strong convictions. I respect an allowance of consideration for all perspectives.

Sabio Lantz said...

Oh, you are right. You are open-minded.
But I wager you are not open-minded enough not to embrace a position.
DId you get the flu shot?
Are your kids fully vaccinated?

And I am curious how you support this claim:
"The insufficient study into the biochemistry of individuals and the affects of the immunization shots on them, leads to unwillingness to partake in these shots. "

Anyone reading this post will not gain any information to help them think about vaccinate or not -- sometimes, being too open minded can be harmful. No?

Here are guesses (and I shouldn't have to do that) at what you are saying:

(A) don't vaccinate until more studies are done.
(B) Governments are bad for not doing more studies
(C) Vaccinate, damnit, sure it is uncertain, but it is for the good of the whole.
(D) Watch out for those vaccines -- they just keep coming, drug companies push them and they don't have our best in mind.

Or did I miss one?

Sabio Lantz said...

ooops, forgot to follow

CalledtoQuestion said...

S. Lantz - Ha. Ha. I should have specified that this is actually a summary of public debate paragraph. That is why I have given no opinion of my own at this point of time, though I just may.

No, they will not gain any information, however, they will gain the realization that they must consider the question(s).

Sabio Lantz said...

So, those who were consider vaccinating should stop and think about it. And those who aren't vaccinating should stop and think about it. Right?

You didn't answer my questions, btw. Was that an intentional avoidance?

CalledtoQuestion said...



Perhaps? :)

Kmarie said...

I would say it depends on the vaccination. Which would require a lot of responsibility and research to figure out. If you do not choose to do some vaccinations then you should be prepared to deal with whatever comes along. For instance, if you do not get the measles shot then if your children DO get the measles it is important to give them high amounts of vitamin K because the measles gets dangerous when it depletes Vit K from organs and thus the organs fail...but measles otherwise is just like the chicken pox nowadays - most people do not die...and the medical community does not actually promote the research or how to help yourself naturally with some of these issues. It is very tough to find medical journals that publish neutral studies on the issue.Then there is the Ruebella shot which has more causation to cross the brain barrier. When it happened to me personally the hospital staff wrote it down as coincidental which became my new reason to research each shot ( the fact that it was not being reported for what it was.) We had more flu sickness when we took the flu shot every 5 years later we have not had the flu once since quitting the shot...but that was just our personal experience and not scientific.
Unfortunately most information on shots is biased and supported by the companies who make the shots...or it can also be biased like the false report that vaccinations cause autism...which is a whole other concept I take issue with.
But most shots are necessary for survival or for general health. We pick and choose children's shots accordingly. So our children have some and do not have others...but I firmly believe that each person has to come to their own personal decisions based on research and careful consideration. Even with my experiences I would not expect someone to listen to me and take it at face value...nor would I be upset if they chose opposite of what I do. We do have opinions on each shot...but we are friends with many people who choose the opposite opinion.
Hope that helps as I am the one who ultimately makes these calls in our family:) (i'm his wife:)

CalledtoQuestion said...

Sabio, now that you read my wife's comment above, you know why I have no opinions. :) She's a feisty one.
There are risks to either decision, and that is precisely why one needs to ask the question, in order to understand the side they may choose. An informed decision does not eliminate the possibilities of harm, but the knowledge, that one made the most informative decision they could, will assist the individual if there arises either harmful reactions or good.

Sabio Lantz said...

Well, I almost unsubscribed from the blog after CTQ cute, evasive question -- I've no time for those sorts of blog correspondences. I'm into blogs to share and think.

So thanx, Kmarie, for answering.

I actually presented a paper to the National Public Health Association, here in the USA entitled "The Social Benefit of Vaccine Resistors" -- as you can imagine, it was controversial. But as I have an MPH from Johns Hopkins, it was given at least a listen.

My kids were slowly vaccinated way off schedules -- and still don't have all their vaccines. I do not do Flu vaccines and I practice clinically. The issue is very complex.

We have acquaintances who child is severely mentally retarded after a reaction to a vaccine and as you know, there are other stories.

We sound very similar in our approach. Your last paragraph summary would be exactly what I would say also.

CalledtoQuestion said...

S.Lantz - As am I. I'm not trying to be evasive, to be honest, I am just to tired at the moment to answer as in depth as I would like(It's been a very long day).

Kmarie said...

:) Wow it is rare to find someone in the medical community who resonates with similar opinions!:) Refreshing. We prolonged the shots we took too because it is better all around. I owe a lot of my opinions to a dear friend who researched this for years and had many medical journals. I am lucky to have had her opinions because otherwise, when I was a teenage mother, I would have blindly gone a long. Luckily we learn as we grow!:)

Miriam (Pete) Rashleigh said...

Yes, complex. Good for both sides to research. I didn't have time for that, just went ahead with it for all four of my kids except for the chicken pox one. To me, better safe than sorry.
That's my uninformed position. :) Those with more sensitive autoimmune responses in general or diseases that lower their immunity obviously should not have vaccines.
two bits.
Good thoughts on each end.

CalledtoQuestion said...

Miriam- Thanks Miriam. To each their own, or something like that. :) I get a kick out of either side of the debate. I think you had mentioned once before, that anything, or anyone, can be radical in what they believe is fundamental. I find this to be true in the debate of vaccinations. It becomes a heated topic that could be likened to the evolution/creation debate. When the position that I take comes before the relationships that I have, then I need to clue into the possibility that I may be taking this thing to seriously.

My Little Warriors said...

oh vaccinations.. i have many thoughts on this... as it can be a feisty issue i generally try to avoid discussions. My stance is that our personal history with vaccinations and the adverse affects that it has had on myself, my husband, multiple family members, and sadly enough our kiddos (i am not talking about their autism.. i am talking about immune response to vaccines) we chose not to vaccinate and go with the potential "evil" of catching the measles (which our oldest actually got from the measles vaccine of all things, and yes that is confirmed by the doctor who administered the vaccination) or other thing they say to vaccinate against. BUT i do not think that it is a one size fits all thing and to each family their own. Vaccinations in the scale of medical history have not been around for very long and i do not think we are going to have any great research or hard core understanding of them until many years from now. I feel like they still really are in the testing phases. The idea behind them does in a way make sense.. but again.. everyone is not one size fits all. Anyway.. that's my thoughts on that. :)